Abby and Ami read listener feedback and say good-bye. See you 'round the internet, guys!

Ami and Abby talk about other stuff they make, which you can find online. Yellow Flag Press published Amy's chap book, Milk and Water. Red Lion Square Poetry still has a facebook page that might someday be revived. You can find links to all of Abbie's books on her website. Her books are available in ebook, paper, and audio from the usual retailers. A quick google search for her name will turn them up.

Abby and Ami talk about what to do with the Patreon content and possibly posting some feedback emails to the blog or FB (with permission, of course). They read some emails about family returning to religion in times of crisis and the ever-popular topic of book-burning.

Abby and Ami were both out of town this week, so we're sharing a snippet that we posted for the Patreon donors back in June of 2015. It's an oldie, but goodie. Enjoy!

Ami, Mistie, and Alex talk about their experiences with a recent high school class reunion and the awkwardness of running into old teachers while doing normal adult thinks (like having low-key drink).

Ami and Abby talk about politics.

We've talked about this a lot, and we've decided that episode 150 will be the last episode of the original podcast run. It will then go on hiatus, possibly forever, although we'll keep the feed up. Listen to the episode for more details.

Abby, Ami, and Debbie talk about watching The Exorcist. The scariest thing in the film was brain imaging before CT scan, which...holy shit guys! Apparently this movie was made just one year before CT scans came along. Neurologists really did perform direct carotid puncture to inject dyes into the circulation to image the brain back then, and they really did something called pneumoencephalography. They injected air into the CSF via spinal, which would rise (as air tends to do) and make the brain more visible via X-ray. As a person who performs modern spinals, Abby comments that this would produce the mother of all headaches and possibly brain damage. A truly horrifying film.

Abby's back! Ami and Abbie talk about coming out at work, dealing with relatives, and terrible Christian gifts.

Ami and Alex talk about the difficult decision of when (or whether) to come out as an atheist at work.�

Ami and Debby talk about yoga and other dangerously demonic activities.

Ami and Misty respond to listener feedback from someone whose family lived through an actual Time of Trouble.

Ami and Misty talk a little more about Hacksaw Ridge and discuss some Adventist mailings.

A listener wrote in with the title of a scary end times book you might have read, as well as some experiences we're all probably shared.

Abby and Ami review Hacksaw Ridge. Spoiler: it was worse than they expected.

Ami and Abby talk about several Adventist articles reviewing the new Desmond Doss film "Hacksaw Ridge." They also read some funny mailings. Did you know paying tithe prevents automobile accidents? Neither did we.

Note: this is not a review of the film itself by the hosts. They had not seen the film when they recorded this. Their review will be in an upcoming episode.

Ami and Abby read some heartbreaking feedback and talk about New Years. They'll be donating to to Zebra Coalition. Second Harvest Food Bank is a great charity they've supported in the past. Consider your own local charities.

Abby and Ami read bizarre Adventist mailings and reminisce about Christmas.

Ami and Abby respond to listener feed back. They talk about books, art, and the End of Days!

Ami and Abby come to you from Florence, Italy! They talk about visiting beautiful religious art and how they respond to it as atheists and humanists.

Abby and Ami read and chuckle over Adventist mailings. And, hey, we even found one article that seemed really good and legitimately helpful (spoiler: it wasn't the one about the Beast Power).

Abby and Ami read and respond to a truly harrowing email from a gay listener whose SDAP family came very close to getting him killed.

Ami and Abby talk about the US election a bit. Sorry, we won't do this very often, we promise.

Ami and friends talk about the experience of getting married as an Adventist or with Adventist relatives in attendance.

Ami and Misty explore the latest catalogue of book offerings from the ABC.

Ami and Alex talk about censorship, trolling vs useful comments, Unitarian church, and the question of whether human beings are genetically predisposed towards religious belief. Abby could not help chiming in with a few comments while editing this one.

Ami and Abby watch The Terminator 1 and 2 for the first time in their 30's. Ami and Alex talk about the films and other cultural touch-stones they missed. These were not necessarily "good" films, but they were important to our generation. Like so many pop-cultural icons, we missed them.

Ami, Abby, and Alex read from Adventist mailings, as well as some listener feedback. They discuss some of the stranger sources of evil espoused by Adventists...such as cartoons and children's toys.

Abby, Ami, and Alex reading Adventist mailings about death and a listener email about the frustrations of dealing with Adventist family.

Ami and Abby respond to listener feedback about uninitiated relatives who unwittingly horrify Adventists. They try to explain how things like coffee and ham are perceived by Adventists. They talk about whether all the strange SDA rules make people happy.

Abby, Ami, and Alex talk about dealing with family in crisis, and how this tends to bring religious issues to the forefront again. Abby had to help unpack a bunch of Adventist books recently. Drop by the Facebook page to see pictures.

Ami and Abby read from Adventist publications about demon possession, SID, TMI, and nuts. (So many nuts.)

Abby and Ami talk about swearing! @#$*#@!!

Abby and Ami reminiscence about the girl's dorms in boarding academy.

Ami and Alex watch a video in which a young man attempts to pitch Adventism to people who come sit on his sofa in a public place. Here's one of the videos so that you can share our discomfort! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQWs_LxeS2s

Ami and Misty respond to listener feedback. They talk about music, literature, education, and cottage cheese loaf.

Ami and Misty talk about the Jonie books by Jo-An Ritchie - the good, the bad, and the silly.

Ami and Abby discuss an article that deals with abuse in the church and a lesson plan from Young Disciple Magazine that demonstrates how this abuse might get started.

Ami and Abby read from Adventist mailings about an odd outreach program called Share Him, as well as some articles about missionary efforts in China and Latin America.

Abby and Ami talk about Ellen White and her role in founding the Adventist church.

Ami and Abby read a sobering feedback email and offer support to a college student who is not quite ready to be on her own, but who finds her family's aggressive religiosity unbearable.

Ami and Abby read from Adventist mailings, including articles about baptizing people through Facebook, making friends in order to convert them, and "aggressive service."

Abby, Ami, and Jim talk about Adventist summer camp as both campers and staff.

Ami and Abby respond to a couple of feedback emails. Topics include dealing with Adventist family and working with Adventist school children when you're not actually an Adventist.

Abby mentioned a documentary about a doomsday cult that she watched recently. It's called "Apocalypse Later: Harold Camping vs The End of the World," available on Amazon if you're interested.

Here is the Facebook page for Human Chainlink for Pulse Funerals.

Here are other places you can help:

Zebra Coalition

The Center Orlando

Go Fund Me Support Pulse Victims

Abby's home! Ami and Abby talk about the last 4 months, the Emoji Bible, C.S. Lewis, and anything else that occurs to them.

Ami and Misty loved C. S. Lewis's Space Trilogy as young Christians. Now, they review the books as adult atheists.

Ami and Misty read choice bits from non-Adventist religious mailings, including the anti-Adventist Proclamation Magazine.

Alex and Ryan talk about playing games as Adventist kids, particularly video games.

From time to time, we get questions from well-meaning people that go something like this: "We understand why you are frustrated with the Seventh-Day Adventist church, but we can't understand why you're not Christians anymore. Why don't you believe in the Bible? Even if you're not Seventh-Day Adventists, isn't the Bible still a good and useful source of truth and wisdom?" In this episode, Ami and Misty respond to that question.

It's our hundredth episode, guys! Can you believe we're still doing this? Abby and Ami reminisce about the podcast. They also talk about an article in a (newish?) publication, Adventist Today, called "It is OK to be a Cultural Adventist."

Ami and Misty talk about friendships with people who are still religious or who have become religious over the course of the friendship. What role do we play for those friends? What role do they play for us? How can we be kind to people we care about while remaining true to ourselves when they talk about their faith?

Ami and Misty interview Ami's daughter, Alice - a young teen who's been raised very differently from her parents. They talk about what it's like to be an atheist kid in a Christian culture and awkward interacts with grandparents and other kids.

Alex and Ryan talk about how their love of sports interacted with - and occasionally mirrored - their feelings about religion.

Abby and Ami respond to listener feedback, talk about crazy fundamentalists, and discuss the merits of a Great Controversy cartoon.

Mistie reviews the ABC romance "Heaven Sent" by Amanda Bews, and then she and Amy talk about it.

Ami, Misty, and a couple of brave guests talk about the experience of being homeschooled and the impact this had on their early social experiences and later attempts to make friends.

Ami, Misty, Stephanie, and Josh talk about dancing - SDAP attitudes towards dancing, learning to dance, and uncomfortable relationships with our bodies. Listen through the outro for a little chatter outtake directed at Abby. My friends miss me!! Awww...

Ami, Misty, and Rena talk about fringe-Adventist. These are the people that even Adventists thought were crazy! Somehow, most mainstream Adventists seem to have had experiences with them.

Ami, Misty, and Ryan read from SDA mailings. The latest offerings from the NAD include a guide to active shooter drills in church. Curiously, there is no mention of all the concealed-carry weapons sure to be available...

Abby and Ami talk long distance. (Ami sounds like she's in a tin can, guys. Sorry. We might try a different recording arrangement next time.) They discuss listener feedback about abuse, loss of faith, and Adventist colleges. Abby talks about her bizarre struggle to get her name removed from the books.

Alex, Ryan, and Jim talk about Star Wars, Star Trek, and how science fiction reinforced or contradicted their beliefs about religion, both before and after leaving.

Ami and Misty reminisce and gently mock the Christian romance novels sold in the ABC. The talk about fond memories and ridiculous tropes.

Ami and Abby talk about some changes for the podcast over the next few months. The conversation takes a weird left turn into SDA radio drama. We might have been too well-caffeinated for this one, folks.

Ami, Abby, Ryan, and Lana continue their discuss on mental health and Adventism.

Ami, Abby, Ryan, and Lana talk about how Adventism interacts with mental health issues. Part 1 of 2.

Ami and Abby respond to emails about the occult and read hilarious Amazon reviews for Adventist books.

Abby and Ami read and comment on new Adventist mailings (hey, they send this stuff to us).

Abby, Amy, Alex, and Aaron talk about gender roles within Adventism, masculinity, femininity, and how those things were perceived.

Ami, Abby, and Misty discuss Peter Boghossian's "A Manual for Creating Atheists."

Ami and Abby talk about tattoos and piercings and the complicated relationship between these things and SDA faith or lack thereof. They also give some practical advice for adults who want tattoos or piercings and have never gotten them before.

Ami and Abby read from SDA mailings. They talk about the problems inherent with conflating witnessing with friendship, and they talk some more about the church's attitude towards sex and sexual abuse.

Abby and Ami respond to feedback and talk about various ways to grow up Adventist. We mentioned this post by Chris Hudson.

Abby and Ami reminisce about road trips in SDA grade school and high school. Chior, hand bells, band, gymnastics, drama team, youth group, outdoor school, camping, snorkeling, canoeing, etc - Adventists *love* to send their kids on overnight road trips. These are mostly positive memories with some weird ones thrown in.

Ami and Abby talk about the shift in Adventist politics from old-fashioned conscientious objectors to mainstream NRA-style Republicans. They also take a look at Adventist presidential candidate, Ben Carson.

Abby and Ami read from Adventist publications about the recent GC session, education, and changes to the 27 fundamental beliefs.

This is Part 2 of 2. Ami, Alex, and Abby talk with a friend about sexual abuse in the church and attitudes towards that abuse. They discuss some attitudes that are, if not unique to Adventism, at least very distinctly Adventist.

Ami, Alex, and Abby speak with a friend about sexual abuse in the church. This is a difficult topic. Trigger warnings everywhere. Part 1 of 2.

Ami, Abby, and Mistie talk about the experience of reading western literature as atheists and ex-Adventists, conflicts that arise when raising children in a world saturated with religious imagery, and the role of religious themes in art and culture.

Ami, Abby, and Mistie talk about hymns, praise songs, and Special Music.

Abby and Ami respond to listener feedback, talk about movies some more, and then discuss the Pope's recent visit.

Ami and Abby talk about their experiences with youth pastors and the strange role these men play in Adventist churches.

Abby and Ami reminisce about wonderful toys, activity songs, strange adult leaders, and horrifying stories told with felts.

Ami, Abby, and Alex read from SDA mailings and discuss topics ranging from SDA films to dreadlocks to modern sanitariums.

Abby and Ami respond to feedback. We talk about vegi-meat, the ABC, and being limited by the Adventist ecosystem. Here's Betrayal by Merikay McLeod, the book our listener mentioned about the battle for equal pay for women in Adventism. Also, here's Peter Boghossian's A Manual for Creating Atheists. Read along with us if you like.

Ami, Abby, and Mistie read listener feedback and talk about guilt trips, relatives, crazy pastors, and the strange Adventist affinity for snake oil.

Abby, Ami, and Mistie talk about angels, fear of angels, angels within Adventist mythology, and angel sexlessness. And it's all kind of terrifying.

Ami, Abby, Misty, Jen, and Adrian talk about marrying or befriending ex-Adventists. Outisders wonder: what happened to you freaks?

Ryan Bell (whom you might know as the "Year Without God Guy") has been an oft-requested guest by our listeners. In many ways, he has become the face of Adventism to the atheist community. He has a great blog, linked above.

Unfortunately, Abby and Ami do not have a mixer, which is a peice of equipment they should aquire before trying to do another long-distance interview. This audio is a little hard to understand in places, but there are some good great moments. Please be pateint with the sound quality.

Ryan Bell (whom you might know as the "Year Without God Guy") has been an oft-requested guest by our listeners. In many ways, he has become the face of Adventism to the atheist community. He has a great blog, linked above.

Unfortunately, Abby and Ami do not have a mixer, which is a peice of equipment they should aquire before trying to do another long-distance interview. This audio is a little hard to understand in places, but there are some good great moments. Please be pateint with the sound quality.

Ami and Abby read some listener feedback stories about "magical" womanhood and being drunk in church.

Abby and Ami discuss their reactions to the GC's decision to not to ordain women. They also have fun with the new ABC book catalogue.

Ami and Misty talk respond to feedback, talk about women's ordination, and read wacky Adventist mailings.

Ami, Alex, and Lana talk about personal experience in Adventist health care, brochures, the SDA hospital environment, and the amazing stealth powers of JW pamphleteers!

Abby talks about her experiences as a student missionary in Taiwan in 1989/1999.

Ami and Abby talk about SDA church - the service, their own family experiences, and a bit of nostalgia.

Ami and Abby talk read some more stories about demons, find hilarious typography choices in the Review, and then read some suggested reasons to go to heaven.

Abby and Ami talk about Bible Class and the Adventist idea of comparative religion studies. They also read some materials intended to help witness to "secularists."

Ami and Abby interview Renia Carsillo about her new memior. She talks about growing up Southern and Adventist. The book is Born Hungry: Stories about sweet love, bitter greens and losing my religion. It's available on Kindle.

Abby, Ami, and Alex invite a guest on the show, Aaron, to talk about his experiences growing up gay in the Seventh-Day Adventist Church. They talk about bullying, gay acts vs gay identity, issues with parents, and the difficulty of coming out atheist after coming out gay.

Ami and Abby talk read listener feedback and talk about the emotional manipulation of the classic alter call and its many iterations. They also announce a new Goodreads Account and a Patreon Page! Go watch the video if you want to see us look awkward on camera.  

Ami, Abby, and Ryan talk about their impressions of organized atheism, both immediately after leaving the SDA church and now. They talk about the good these organizations do, but also their conflicted feelings about joining anything that feels church-like or brings people together over shared ideology.

Abby and Ami share some SDA mailings, along with comments from listeners. They discuss the phenomena of self-editing for the comfort of SDA relatives and friends. They also read a very brave listener’s letter about dating and relationships. Afterward, their friends discuss fear of the occult.

Abby and Ami talk about fear of the occult, ouija boards, evil spirits, yoga, new age music, dungeons and dragons, and other curious Adventist superstitions.

Ami, Abby, and Alex respond to feedback, read some stories, and ask our audience some serious questions about what they'd like to see from us in the future.

Ami, Abby, and Misty talk about sexism in the Adventist church.

Ami and Abby talk about the recruiting process for Adventist universities. Abby talks about her experience of going to an SDA college and Ami talks about her experience of going to a secular university fresh out of SDA boarding academy.

This is a feedback episode with Abby and Ami, featuring such charming phrases as "separation of church and brain" and "I was raised a starchetarian." You guys rock!This episode was recorded long distance on Abby's end, which means that Ami sounds a little like she's in a tin can, but not too bad.

Ami, Alex, and Ryan reminisce again about living in Adventist dorms during boarding academy. They talk about sexuality and race issues in the dorm. This one is kind of gross, folks (just like living in the dorm).

Abby and Ami talk about the Adventist Health Message - mostly diet, but also weird things like airing out your bed, avoiding mustard, and counting your bowel movements. Because there's nothing more Adventist than concerns about colon mucus.

Alex, Ami, and Abby talk about Pathfinders, begging for money, and spaghetti disasters.

Ami and Abby conclude a 2-part discussion on Communion and Baptism, focusing this week on Baptism.

Ami and Abby begin and 2-part discussion on Communion and Baptism, focusing this week on Communion.

Ami and Abby respond to your feedback and read an SDA mailing about a very special Valentines Day movie. This episode was recorded at a distance, so the sound is a little worse than usual. It was recorded on Ami's end, which means she'll sound a bit clearer. It's not perfect, but we think it's still listenable.

Abby and Ami talk about the Sabbath, focusing on the non-church aspects. This is a mostly positive episode, along with a big dose of weird. Uncle Dan and Aunt Sue, anyone?

Ami, Abby, and Jim continue their discussion about officially leaving the church. They also talk about the psychological and emotional process and some of the Bible stories that spend them on their way. For the after-show, we ask our friends: Was there a particular Bible story that broke your suspension of disbelief?

Abby, Ami, and Jim talk about the actual process and decisions involved in removing your name from church books.

Ami and Abby talk about the conundrum of prayer, the ways you try to escape it, and the ways that you sometimes fail.

Amy and I talk about miracle stories, read some of yours, and our friends discuss religion and dinosaurs (you know you wanted more dinosaurs).

Ami, Abby, and Ryan talk about working for and with Adventists.

Abby, Ami, and Misty talk about Christmas traditions and gift ideas from the ABC.

Ami, Alex, and Abby talk about dinosaurs, the flood, evolution, antediluvian genetic technology, and so much more.

Ami and Abby talk about jewlry, make-up, and the concept that your body doesn't belong to you.

Abby and Ami respond to feedback and read delightful excerpts from Adventist mailings.

Ami and Alex talk about the church's attitude towards the environment, conservation, and Sam Campbell.

Ami talks to three recovering Catholic friends about their experiences in religion. Turns out, they're not too different from ours.

Abby and her brother continue their discussion of experiences alcohol for the first time as adults - reality vs what they were taught. They also discuss the desire to model responsible drinking for children in their lives.

Abby and her brother talk about the experience of drinking for the first time in their 30's. As it turns out, we were totally oversold on the whole thing.

We talk around bon fire (bone fire?) about our experiences of Halloween. This one is a little loud, guys, but there's some fun stuff if you're patient.

Amy, Mistie, Alex, and Ryan talk about how they were raised vs how they are raising their children. They talk about the challenges of raising your child differently from how you were raised, as well as the rewards. Listen to the afterparty for the dildo story (along with a few more stories of Adventist upbringing ;).

Ami, Alex, and Abby discuss marital expectations within the Adventist church. They talk about Adventist marital counseling and the different messages given to men and women.

Ami and Abby talk about Adventist dating. They talk about dating experiences both inside and outside the church. Listen through the outro to hear everyone tell their best and worst Banquet stories.

Abby and Ami talk about Jesus, Hippy Jesus, prayer, invissible friends, and swearing. Stick around after the outro to listen to our friends' favorite Jesus swears.

Abby, Ami, and Misty talk about growing up in a Dooms Day cult, Daniel and Revelation Seminars, childhood nightmares, fear of the Little Horn, and learning survivalist skills...because #timeoftrouble.

Ami, Alex, and Abby read some selections from SDA publications that the conference so generously sends them (no matter where you hide, the Southern Tidings will find you). They also read and respond to a couple of intense listener emails.

Alex, Ryan, Ami, and Abby talk about dorm life in Adventist boarding accademy. They discuss the ways in which this system molds people. More stories, funnier this time. Part 3 of 3.

Alex, Ryan, Ami, and Abby talk about dorm life in Adventist boarding academy. More hair-raising stories. Part 2 of 3.

Alex, Ryan, Ami, and Abby talk about the Adventist school system in general and the dorm system in particular. They tell some hair-raising stories. Part 1 of 3.

Ami, Abby, and Alex talk about their experiences with church music, worldly music, hypocrisy, and just plain weirdness.

Ami and Abby talk about their memories of Camp Meeting. This is a mostly-positive episode with some weird bits thrown in. Carob, anyone?

Abby and Ami talk about bigotry in the Seventh-Day Adventist church and particularly in the southern United States culture of the church. The conversation covers racism, homophobia, dating, trans issues, segregated conferences, and "the amalgamation of man and beast." This is a really awkward show, guys. It was difficult for us. We apologize for our stammering.

Ami and Abby respond and commiserate with listeners about dealing with family, casual religiosity, literature...and tattoos of Ellen White on the inner thigh.

Ami, Abby, and Misty talk about worldly literature, fiction, and the church. They discuss their experiences with forbidden books and the Adventist attitude towards fiction in general.

Abby, Ami, and Alex talk more about issues with raising your own children when your family wants to proselytize them. They talk about issues with aging parents and the question of whether people are happier with or without religion, regardless of whether it’s true.

Ami, Abby, and Alex talk about dealing with family who are still in the church. They talk about issues with the previous generation, as well as issues with child-rearing and the next generation.

Hey, another sex episode! You can never get enough of those, right? Ami, Abby, and Alex discuss sex ed in the Adventist church. They touch on dorm life, contraceptives, and the experience of growing up in a fundamentalist faith during the AIDS crisis. They ask their friends: What, if any, sex ed did you receive?

Ami and Abby talk about early Seventh-day Adventist attitudes towards sex, more modern attitudes, and their own experiences with sex education growing up in the church. They ask their friends: When did you learn what sex was?

Abby, Ami, and Alex talk about Adventist culture, diet, and the sabbath. They muse on the good and the bad aspects of these things. They ask their friends: What's your favorite veggie meat? Naturally, a couple of guys nearly come to blows over the relative merits of big franks vs veggie links vs linkets. Everyone agrees that breakfast patties are superior to all other meat and non-meat products.

Ami and Abby talk about death, heaven, hell, and Adventist eschatology. They ask their friends the vital question: Were you taught that animals go to heaven?

Ami and Abby discuss their plans for the podcast, their backgrounds, and the circumstances of their leaving the church. They ask their friends the question: When did you know that god wasn't real?